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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:01 am

I've been hearing lots of rave reviews from people that have automatics and the 4.10 gear. Been thinking about doing the switch. I told myself I was only going to do mods that could be easily reversed and this is a huge step. Anyone have the pros and cons?

Also anyone know how much JPC charges for gear install if I supply my own and has anyone else have work done by them?
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Post by Droptop306 Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:38 am

They are awesome and stand behind there work. They cost a little but recommend them. I am having my long tube headers installed by them. They will however charge a slight higher rate for items installed not purchased by them. However I either make them match the price or order them from somewhere else. Just remember if you order them from somewhere else and there is a problem you will have to deal with it. If you order from them, it is there monkey. 4:10 will put alot of step to your automatic. Good luck
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Post by Big-B Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:59 am

Get my buddy Mike to do it. He's way cheaper then JPC. He's a member here, MJR46. Send him a pm. His shop is in Frederick.

You can get the gears from here
http://www.buyfordracing.com/shop/index.php?cPath=3_37
you won't find them much cheaper, 139.00 for 4.10's 4.10 FRPP 10498
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:28 am

That's a great price, I am taking it I will need to update my tune?(Here we go again lol). Brenspeed is a little anal about that. Either I buy the part(s) from them and get free updates to my 3 octanes or I have to pay them for a mail order tune.

What is the name of your friends shop?
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Post by pikuoff Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:35 am

Which tuner do you have? You dont need a new tune, you just need to change the gear ratio on your tune through the tuner.
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:42 am

Oh ok. I have the SCT X3. Now that you mention it, I *think* it does have the option.
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Post by svtwin73 Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:48 am

I have the tuner, sct and brenspeed tune, you dont need a new tune. Just change the gear setting and install tune again. Make sure you bring the tuner and wheel lug key with you.
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:01 pm

PM sent and I also called JPC for a quote. They are supposed to call me back..

Anyone have the address for them? Their website is outdated? I called the toll free number and the guy said they changed their number 4 yrs ago. I ended up using the white pages to get the local number. The address listed was different.
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Post by Big-B Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:01 pm

alkemist wrote:That's a great price, I am taking it I will need to update my tune?(Here we go again lol). Brenspeed is a little anal about that. Either I buy the part(s) from them and get free updates to my 3 octanes or I have to pay them for a mail order tune.

What is the name of your friends shop?
Here ya go.

http://www.carriagehouseautomotive.com/
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:20 pm

Great!! Thanks!!
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Post by Croft Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:29 pm

Nancy is turning into a modding queen, HAHA.
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Post by Big-B Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:37 pm

alkemist wrote:Great!! Thanks!!
I just pm'd him. You can also call him at work and talk to him. Tell him I sent ya if you don't want to wait for him to contact you. The best way to get a hold of him quickly via forum is on Mustang forums
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:01 pm

Cool, thanks :D

lol, I got bit by the mod bug :s

I did some light reading on 4:10s and not sure if I'm just scaring myself or over thinking (which I tend to do..) Everyone that has those gears love it and never regretted it. What I picked up from reading was:

1. Reduction in top end speed. I don't ever forsee me doing 140 but how much do you loose?

2. Turns the GT into a super gas guzzler and is not good for long distance driving.

3. Faster wear and tear on the tranny.

My income is going to drastically change for the worse in a few months, so if it does eat up that much more gas, I might not be able to afford driving lol.
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Post by TT_05_Stang Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:04 pm

Really depends on your driving habbits...

If your driving 90 all the time, then yeah you will see about 3mpg loss... but regular 70-80... you will only lose about 1mpg... not a huge difference...
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Post by Big-B Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:33 pm

Increased Gas consumption will be hardly noticeable
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Post by pikuoff Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:45 pm

Gas consumption will hurt the first week or so b/c you won't be able to keep your foot out of it!!! Once you settle down, it'll be neglible.
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:55 pm

LOL! Ok thanks everyone Smile

This is like taking the plunge off the deep end for me. Haha.
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Post by Big-B Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:05 pm

alkemist wrote:LOL! Ok thanks everyone Smile

This is like taking the plunge off the deep end for me. Haha.
No, I think that was ordering your wheels and your dad not killing you!!4.10 FRPP 154101
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:48 pm

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lol yeah, I was getting ready for the wrath of hell upon me.
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Post by AAron83 Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:07 pm

JPC's new addy. 301 Serendipity Drive Millersville MD 21108. they relocated from their glen burnie shop to a bigger facility last fall
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Post by alkemist Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:14 pm

Oh, lol, they have the correct address but not the phone number on their website, unless the guy that answered was pulling my leg.. it had a cell VM message though.
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Post by alkemist Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:48 am

If I buy the gear from fordracingparts.com, do I have to buy an additional install kit? If so, which one do I need?
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Post by AAron83 Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:55 am

cant remember too well been years ago i had JPC do mine. I got everything through Justin. may be easier to email Justin or Tommy justin@jpcracing.com and tommy@jpcracing.com OR just go with Bernie's friend which will be cheaper. Somebody will guide and help you out
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Post by Big-B Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:26 am

alkemist wrote:If I buy the gear from fordracingparts.com, do I have to buy an additional install kit? If so, which one do I need?
Ask Mike, he will tell you everything you'll need.
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Post by Croft Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:28 am

Nancy, definitely buy gears from Ford Racing, but make sure you buy the 4.10s with the product number ending in "A". Here is the product number for the 4.10s off of Ford Racing's website.

M-4209-G410A*

You can also get these from Summit Racing for cheaper. Here is the link:

http://www.summitracing.com/search/?keyword=M-4209-G410A*&dds=1

As for an installation kit, you will need one. I recommend getting this one:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-4210-C/


This kit has EVERYTHING you need.
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