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Post by Grafxguy.com Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:35 pm

Electric vehicles are a sales flop and a dismal failure. Or so I was told this week—and last week and the week before—by respected newspapers.

The “sales flop” part surprised me, since I am one of thousands of people waiting in line to buy my electric vehicle. I made my reservation for the car in April 2010, and am hoping for delivery by April 2012. If a car has a two-year wait list, is it a sales flop? Nevermind.

The latest article’s author, like the others, conveniently left out the part about the long waiting list. And he left out a few other things as well. Maybe these folks are just too busy to check their facts. Or, maybe something else is going on.
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To a true EV-hater, the image of an electric car will always be the small, underpowered battery-powered vehicles from the 1970s. Preferably, the EV will be depicted on a flatbed truck, getting towed after running out of electricity.

Whatever the reason, the media often has an irrational disdain for electric vehicles (EVs). And a similar disdain is common among the general population too. The same EV-hating arguments are repeated ad nauseum in the media. After analyzing the key arguments of the EV haters, I have compiled what I believe is the first-ever EV-Hater's Guide to Hating Electric Cars. If you really hate EVs—and you know who you are—then this Top 10 guide is especially for you.

First, commit these truthy facts to memory:

1. EVs are totally overpriced.
Point to the $109,000 Tesla Roadster supercar as your only example. If you’re forced to compare prices with a Nissan LEAF—in the mid- to high-20s after tax breaks—then perform a lengthy comparative cost analysis contrasting the LEAF to a $12,000 gasoline car to prove that the EV is more expensive.

2. Plugging them in will crash the grid.
Forget that most electric car charging will occur during off-peak times. And forget that the EV charger on the Nissan LEAF draws a modest 3.3 kilowatts. Just for fun, make the grid-crashing claim while your 4.4-kilowatt clothes dryer is running.

3. EVs are worse for the environment than a gasoline car.
It’s not true, but if you say that often enough, people will believe it. Then roll your eyes and point out that producing electricity for an EV emits pollution too. And what about those batteries? Imply that they’re made out of poison that will pile up in our landfills. Depending on who your audience is, you might also mention that carbon dioxide is a fictional gas invented by the liberal elite.

4. EVs are just a status symbol for eco-snobs.
Remember, the EV is always a symbol for something that you hate. It's not a car.

5. EVs are a sales flop.
Never mention the huge unmet demand and the production bottleneck. Never mention the long waiting lists. Small sales numbers in the first few months of introduction prove that no one wants to buy one. Period.

6. Shout it: Limited range!
This is the one gripe about electric cars that is actually true, so get all the mileage out of it you can. Associate limited range with the word “anxiety.” Say it again: “Anxiety.” See how delightfully negative that word makes you feel. And if an EV-lover mentions that gasoline cars can run out of fuel too, just look at them like they’re crazy, and then change the subject.
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It doesn't matter how much electric horsepower the latest electric cars offer, ALL EVs are golf carts.

Now, swear (on a stack of Hummer owner manuals) that you’ll never talk about these things:

7. NEVER mention fuel costs.
Just don’t go there. A typical gasoline car will burn about $20,000 worth of gasoline over it’s 128,500 mile lifetime, while an EV will run the same distance for less than $4,000 of electricity. If people start mentally adding that extra $16,000 to the cost of their gasoline car, it’s game over.

8. Never mention timing belts.
I just spent $1,500 getting one replaced in my gasoline car. Of course, an EV owner will never have to do that. Similarly, oil changes and other costly maintenance are a non-issue with an EV. Keep that quiet, okay?

9. Never mention the luxury ride quality.
People spend tens of thousands of dollars extra for gasoline cars that have a smooth and quiet ride. An even smoother and quieter ride is standard with an EV. Avoid mentioning that, and remember to mutter something about golf carts.

10. Never mention the future.
The cost of an EV will go down by thousands in the years ahead as production costs fall—especially the cost of the battery. Along with the cheaper price will come longer range, faster recharging, more choice, better performance, and other improvements. EVs are price-competitive already. In a few years, EVs will be a distinctly better value than gasoline cars. Shhh. Just keep saying that they’re too expensive.

There you have it, EV haters. Please don’t bother to take an electric car out for a spin to see for yourself, or to ask an EV owner about the real-world experience of driving an electric car.
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Post by Great White Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:22 pm

I don't really think that anyone really has issues with EV's. Things certainly have changed with the introduction of electric/gas hybrid cars 12-14 years ago. At first they were extremely expensive in comparison to similar sized cars, and were not everywhere you looked as they are today. The prices have come down, and have a huge popularity. I have seen hotel, and rest stops are starting to outfit the parking lots with charging stations.

If you are on the defensive because of what some reporter wrote, take it up with him/her/them.

Would I personally buy one no, but it is not for any of your top ten you have listed. I prefer the combustion engine.
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Post by Bethelism Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:11 pm

Oh you.... EVs are cute. I think it's awesome that they had to make sounds for them.... top ten excuses for Electric vehicle haters-- lol 681689
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Post by Grafxguy.com Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:31 pm

I just found this online today and thought it was funny, especially since there is now a EV Shelby Cobra.., the cut/paste left off the quotation and the author for some reason..
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Post by Great White Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:41 pm

Grafxguy.com wrote:I just found this online today and thought it was funny, especially since there is now a EV Shelby Cobra.., the cut/paste left off the quotation and the author for some reason..

Oh Ok, I thought you may have gone off the deep end ROTFL
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Post by VolkerGermany Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:21 pm

HEre in germany we have an even bigger discussion.

To be honest:

Batteries have a limited Lifetime. Did you ever had a reloadable battery powered tool that really had 1000 Chargetimes by standart using? Even my Cellphone, that has the same Accus like the Tesla, loose his full capacity after few month, and after 6 month it keeps half time

Batteries are not enviremnet friendly. Not in Production, not in recycling. And they are not cheap

And last but not least: When they test battery pwoered cars they do it under best condition: Singel Driver, nice weather.
And they dont show a test: Winter, snow, rain. You and 3 friends go to the car that stands 6 hours in front of a restaurant in the cold withour power.

What you do in real life?

4 people, cold, wet shoes, wet clothes. You start the engine, start AC to get the windows clear and start the heater, radio and light. Powersteering helps you get out of the snow, power brakes needet a lot, the wiper tries get rid of snow and mud.

And you really think that that electrical powered car, that had 60% chrage befre you entered the restaurant brings your 3 friends and you home over the next 50 miles inner city?

I´m not agains BPCars, but i think that the hybrid is the future, with a high efficent fuel-powered car. With Standart fuel at the moment, with water-oxgen (is it what it´s called?) in the future.

But pure battery? no way.

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Post by mjr46 Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:51 am

EV'S ARE A WASTE, and I'd never buy one, for example the chevy volt , 40k to buy one vs my 81 vw jetta diesel that gets 50 mpg on average and has almost 0 maintenence and was given to me, by the time the chevy volt starts paying for itself or saving me money, meaning surpassing the 40k initial investment vs my vw investment, the freakin' car will be worn out same goes for prius owners, sure my vw isn't the most comfortable ride but with a minimal investment in it vs it's savings to me, it is paying me to own it, not the otherway around.....plus sure ev's don't burn fuel or polute the enviornment....or do they?? it's the whole out of sight, out of mind concept....where does electricity come from?? exactly...................powerplants and what makes them run?? ie..nuclear power, coal ect ect so moral is no real benifit of savings to own one or to the enviornmemt.

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