Long tube headers

I was curious how good or bad pypes long tube headers are and if they are any better then bbk long tube headers. I know that kooks are the best but they also cost an arm and a leg. I'm not sure that WHEN I am ready to go for a set of long tube headers and h-pipes. I want to have a good quality set without going well overboard on price.

Pypes LT's are pretty much a carbon copy of Kooks so you will get the same performance; however, they are made using lower quality steel. Not bad but not as awesome as Kooks.
I don't have any input in regards to BBK

Pypes uses more iron content in the steel. Rusts out faster.

Hmmmmmm maybe not they seemed to have changed it to 304 S.S. as well. I am not sure I believe that though. Anyway if you aren't tracking the car a lot I would think Pypes would be good enough. Kooks are really nice though. How much do you really want to spend?

I'm thinking about 800-900

Any suggestions for a catted h-pipe? I like the idea of getting the pypes long tube headers however most places I'm looking only have the off road h-pipes. I'm needed to find a fix since my cats have cracked....

I was also wondering if anyone has used JBA headers or thoughts on the company

I hate posting so much with one topic before any replies or the like, but I was thinking of either Pypes which I've heard mixed reviews on a lot of great reviews but others not so good on fitment. I was thinking of MAYBE MAC or JBA although not as much as the JBA due to the pipes being a slip on design rather then a bolt together design that Pypes and MAC.

I have the titanium coated JBA headers and off road h pipe.  Awesome sound!

Good to hear, thank you

Did you have to do any special cutting or fabricating to get the JBAs to fit?

JBAs were installed AFTER a tubular k-member was installed, so any clearance issues were not apparent.  That said, a guy I know installed them with his stock suspension and had no clearance or fitment issues.  His was a 2005 as well...

Very good to know, thank you

Boss281, I've decided to go with the JBA long tube headers and catted H-pipe, was wondering did you wrap your headers at all or no?

No wraps, no heat problems...

Perfect, thats what I love to hear. Thank you very much

I just made my order through AM for JBA ceramic long tube headers and off road h-pipe, will add in cats later on

Not sure your clearance or where your starter is, but I know with foxes its a common issue with LT headers causing overheating issues to the starter.  I have never had this problem, though.

Are you installing yourself?

No, working that detail out. I haven't heard of clearance issues with the JBA's or at least not as much anymore. Reading over Alldata there is a lot to remove and reinstall but it shouldn't be too terribly bad.

They were a PITA with my fox, i cant even imagine newer stangs

It's an afternoon, just like on a fox or sn95...

Just curious with running the off road set up any issues with emissions or does the tune take car of that issue?

Mil eliminators and tune should do the trick

I have an o/r H. I have to swap the cats back on and change the tune to emissions. I have heard its not required but I don't feel like going through the crap if you don't pass.

John on your setup how do you pass emissions?

Thats what I was thinking would have to be done. As long as my damned P1000 code can go away by friday afternoon I'll have 2 years to get a catted short pipe.